I test drove a 4x2 1794 iForce and really liked it. The acceleration was great. But with all the issues and recalls on the third-gen Tundra, I’m having second thoughts.
There was another '24 iForce on the lot, but it had a stop sale on it. I didn’t like the color, and it was 4x4. I’m guessing it had an earlier engine build date.
What do you all think? Should I skip the 24s entirely, even if they’re not on the recall list, and wait for the 25s to see how they perform over time?
I got a 24 iForce Max. Just under 16,000 miles on it.
I don’t baby the truck, and it’s been awesome. I love it. You’ll either get compliments or people making dumb comments like, “Good luck with the engine.” It’s mostly folks who are just bitter.
@Wynn
Same with my 24 Platinum iForce Max. I also had a 24 Limited before this (non-hybrid), and it was solid. Don’t let people on the internet or haters stop you from getting and enjoying what you want.
@Wynn
16K on a '24? I’m guessing you’ve had it close to a year. The iForce isn’t part of the recall, right? That’s a good sign.
Kel said:
@Wynn
16K on a '24? I’m guessing you’ve had it close to a year. The iForce isn’t part of the recall, right? That’s a good sign.
I’ve only had it since May. I’ve been driving a lot lately—did 2,500 miles just last month.
@Wynn
Nice! Do you know the build date on yours? I’m going to check the one I’m looking at.
Also, one odd thing about the one I’m considering—the battery was dead when I saw it in the showroom. They jumped it and let me test drive it, and it ran great. I’m wondering if it was just a light left on or something more serious.
@Kel
Build date on mine is 03/24, made in Texas.
@Wynn
You lost me at ‘bitter folks.’ Come on, man. Be better than that.
Tobin said:
@Wynn
You lost me at ‘bitter folks.’ Come on, man. Be better than that.
I’m just saying, a lot of people talk trash when they’re unhappy about their own situation. Not putting up with it anymore.
@Wynn
I’ve owned 22 Toyotas, including three Tundras (one being a Pro). I don’t care for the new generation, but that’s just my opinion. Doesn’t mean people who don’t like them are bitter or jealous. If it works for you, that’s great!
@Fern
What don’t you like about it? Did you have three 3rd-gen Tundras? If you didn’t like the first two, why did you get a third?
At the end of the day, it’s all personal preference. If you like it, that’s what matters.
@Wynn
The first two were an ‘07 and a 2010. I mostly drove my 4Runners then. Later, a Pro came up that I’d been waiting for, so I grabbed it.
My issue with the current gen is the ride and the engine. No one knows yet if these will last as long as the older models—250K to 400K miles. That’s a big question mark.
The 2025 models will be the third year of this production cycle, so by then, most issues should be ironed out. That’s probably when the trust in them will go back up.
@Fern
Got it. That makes sense now. Yeah, I’ve always liked the 2nd-gen Tundras too.
@Wynn
Last year, I debated and ended up getting a 2021 Pro instead. Cost wasn’t an issue—I paid cash—but reliability was. I’ve driven Toyotas for 25 years because I trust them. I didn’t want to risk being stranded or waiting months for a new engine.
Making it to 16K miles isn’t that impressive to me.
@Parker
I wasn’t trying to brag about 16K miles. Congrats on your Pro, though.
But let me ask—do you avoid driving altogether out of fear of accidents?
A lot of people worry about what might happen. That’s fine, but I have insurance and a strong warranty to back me up. If my engine fails at 99K miles, I’ll get a new one for free. Simple as that.
I got a 2024 for a good price. Changed the oil at 1,500 km just to be safe, and it’s been fine so far.
Franklin said:
I got a 2024 for a good price. Changed the oil at 1,500 km just to be safe, and it’s been fine so far.
Did you take it to a dealer or shop to get the oil changed? I’d worry about finding debris during a self-change—it could turn into a ‘your fault vs their fault’ situation.
Go for it. If the engine blows, it’s under warranty.
Joss said:
Go for it. If the engine blows, it’s under warranty.
Have you had to use Toyota’s warranty before? I’m not clear on how long it would take to get the truck fixed and back on the road. I also heard they rebuild the engines instead of replacing them—is that true?
@Kel
I just got a ‘24 this week. The dealer told me they replace the engine, not rebuild it. Plus, you get a loaner vehicle while it’s being fixed.
I dealt with Toyota before on Tacoma leaf springs, and they were great. No clue how long engine replacements take, though. I just traded in my F-150 with 60K miles after a transmission failure, so I figured this was worth a shot. If it holds up, awesome. If not, I get a new engine.